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Matt
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I've always had a preference for epi-glue over West Systems but wanted some hard information around why... Below is what ChatGPT told me...

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In high power rocketry (HPR), West System epoxy is sometimes regarded as less ideal compared to products like Epi-Glue or RocketPoxy due to a few key performance factors. Here's a comparison:


🔧 1. Strength and Shock Resistance

  • West System Epoxy:

    • Designed for boat building and general composites.

    • Excellent for wood bonding and laminating.

    • More brittle when cured — can crack under high dynamic loads (e.g. motor thrust or recovery ejection).

  • Epi-Glue (and RocketPoxy):

    • Specifically formulated for high-power rocketry.

    • Tougher and more impact-resistant, better at handling shock loads during flight and landing.


🌡️ 2. Temperature Resistance

  • West System:

    • Starts to soften around 70–80°C, which is often insufficient for components near or around the motor mount.

  • Epi-Glue:

    • Has a higher heat deflection temperature, which matters during motor burns and in hot climates or storage.


🧪 3. Fillers and Mix Consistency

  • West System:

    • Requires additional fillers (like 406 colloidal silica or 404 high-density filler) for gap-filling or structural applications.

    • This adds complexity and the risk of incorrect mix ratios.

  • Epi-Glue:

    • Pre-thickened for fillets and structural bonds.

    • Fewer steps, more consistent results, and easier for rocketeers who want predictable performance.


⏱️ 4. Working Time vs. Cure Time

  • West System:

    • Offers flexibility with different hardeners (fast, slow), but these aren't always optimal for rocket construction timelines.

  • Epi-Glue:

    • Formulated to balance pot life with quick, strong curing, especially suited to high-power builds where tight timelines or multiple layers are involved.


✅ Summary

Property West System Epi-Glue (or RocketPoxy)
Strength Moderate (brittle) Very High (tough & strong)
Shock resistance Lower Excellent
Heat resistance Moderate (~70°C) Higher (~100–120°C)
Pre-thickened ❌ Needs additives ✅ Ready for fillets
Designed for rockets ❌ No ✅ Yes

🧠 Bottom Line

West System epoxy isn't bad, and in fact it's excellent for woodworking and general composite projects. But for HPR, where shock loads, heat, and reliability are critical, Epi-Glue and other rocket-specific adhesives are better suited.

If you're bonding motor mounts, centering rings, fins, or anything load-bearing — using rocket-specific epoxy gives you peace of mind and a margin of safety.

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BrendanHawkins
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Whats Epi-Glue like for laying up or rolling F/Glass sheets into tubes though? Can it be poured and spread out, or can it be brush/roller applied like the mixed West System epoxy? 

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@brendanhawkins I wouldn't use Epi-Glue for fiberglass, it is super chunky and does not flow very well. I tried once to use it for injecting into the airframe for internal fin fillets on a 4" fiberglass rocket. Never again: better to build an external fin-can and epi-glue everything.

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